Comments on: My Conspire 2009 Thoughts – General Session 2 with Drs. Ivy Beckwith and Don Ratcliff http://kidminandculture.wordpress.com/2009/04/10/my-conspire-2009-thoughts-general-session-2-with-drs-ivy-beckwith-and-don-ratcliff/ Moving Children's Ministry Forward Tue, 13 Dec 2011 17:41:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: henryjz http://kidminandculture.wordpress.com/2009/04/10/my-conspire-2009-thoughts-general-session-2-with-drs-ivy-beckwith-and-don-ratcliff/#comment-368 Tue, 02 Mar 2010 21:13:49 +0000 http://www.elementalcm.com/2009/04/10/my-conspire-2009-thoughts-general-session-2-with-drs-ivy-beckwith-and-don-ratcliff/#comment-368 I'm glad you found this post! Thanks.

]]> By: margie hillenbrand http://kidminandculture.wordpress.com/2009/04/10/my-conspire-2009-thoughts-general-session-2-with-drs-ivy-beckwith-and-don-ratcliff/#comment-367 Tue, 02 Mar 2010 15:57:17 +0000 http://www.elementalcm.com/2009/04/10/my-conspire-2009-thoughts-general-session-2-with-drs-ivy-beckwith-and-don-ratcliff/#comment-367 Reading this a little late. (Read your comment on the Conspire 2009 blog.) I liked what you said above: "More often than not, I run into children’s ministry people who are more interested in WHAT to do instead of WHY. .."

I first started blogging as part of a new church plant (it happened to be postmodern) and I was looking for conversation about kids. I cared about the scriptures & kids & parents – their effect on everyone else & visa versa. I was looking for conversation not just about the "what" and the "how" but "why" we would do what we did. It seemed that a church plant was the perfect opportunity to ask "why" as part the design process but there never seemed to be time for that discussion. I'm excited for all the conversations that seem to be happening. I hope you keep asking, "why".

]]> By: henryjz http://kidminandculture.wordpress.com/2009/04/10/my-conspire-2009-thoughts-general-session-2-with-drs-ivy-beckwith-and-don-ratcliff/#comment-366 Thu, 29 Oct 2009 05:07:30 +0000 http://www.elementalcm.com/2009/04/10/my-conspire-2009-thoughts-general-session-2-with-drs-ivy-beckwith-and-don-ratcliff/#comment-366 Thanks for those links. I hope to learn from you again sometime.

]]> By: Don Ratcliff http://kidminandculture.wordpress.com/2009/04/10/my-conspire-2009-thoughts-general-session-2-with-drs-ivy-beckwith-and-don-ratcliff/#comment-365 Thu, 29 Oct 2009 04:52:36 +0000 http://www.elementalcm.com/2009/04/10/my-conspire-2009-thoughts-general-session-2-with-drs-ivy-beckwith-and-don-ratcliff/#comment-365 Yes, thank you for the fine review of the session. I must admit that any quick and easy definition of children's spirituality is going to be oversimplified, because (1) children are complex and (2) spirituality is also a complex issue.

If anyone would like to take a look at some additional detail on the topic, you might want to look at http://www.childfaith.net and also a web page related to a conference on the topic at http://www.childspirituality.org (there is also a discussion page linked there with dozens of mp3's on the topic).

And, just for the record, Scottie May's office is about three doors down the hallway from mine!

Blessings,
Don

]]> By: Henry Zonio http://kidminandculture.wordpress.com/2009/04/10/my-conspire-2009-thoughts-general-session-2-with-drs-ivy-beckwith-and-don-ratcliff/#comment-364 Tue, 12 May 2009 15:56:05 +0000 http://www.elementalcm.com/2009/04/10/my-conspire-2009-thoughts-general-session-2-with-drs-ivy-beckwith-and-don-ratcliff/#comment-364 Is this the ACTUAL Scottie May?

]]> By: Scottie May http://kidminandculture.wordpress.com/2009/04/10/my-conspire-2009-thoughts-general-session-2-with-drs-ivy-beckwith-and-don-ratcliff/#comment-363 Mon, 11 May 2009 01:34:41 +0000 http://www.elementalcm.com/2009/04/10/my-conspire-2009-thoughts-general-session-2-with-drs-ivy-beckwith-and-don-ratcliff/#comment-363 Just an FYI, Jared: Scottie May is a "she"–not a "he." But how could you know?

]]> By: Conspire 2009 Thoughts > Overview > Future Ideas: Open-Source Sessions, Social Media, Live Streaming http://kidminandculture.wordpress.com/2009/04/10/my-conspire-2009-thoughts-general-session-2-with-drs-ivy-beckwith-and-don-ratcliff/#comment-362 Sat, 18 Apr 2009 16:21:12 +0000 http://www.elementalcm.com/2009/04/10/my-conspire-2009-thoughts-general-session-2-with-drs-ivy-beckwith-and-don-ratcliff/#comment-362 [...] on spiritual formation were affirming yet challenging. You can check out more of my thoughts here, my summary of the session here, and my live blogging of the session [...]

]]> By: Amy Dolan http://kidminandculture.wordpress.com/2009/04/10/my-conspire-2009-thoughts-general-session-2-with-drs-ivy-beckwith-and-don-ratcliff/#comment-361 Mon, 13 Apr 2009 14:47:58 +0000 http://www.elementalcm.com/2009/04/10/my-conspire-2009-thoughts-general-session-2-with-drs-ivy-beckwith-and-don-ratcliff/#comment-361 Thank you Henry for your fair and kind review of this session. I enjoyed the conversation and hope that for those of us concerned and passionate about the spiritual formation of children – we can continue having conversations just like these. I look forward to future dialogues with you!

]]> By: Daniel http://kidminandculture.wordpress.com/2009/04/10/my-conspire-2009-thoughts-general-session-2-with-drs-ivy-beckwith-and-don-ratcliff/#comment-360 Sun, 12 Apr 2009 02:15:06 +0000 http://www.elementalcm.com/2009/04/10/my-conspire-2009-thoughts-general-session-2-with-drs-ivy-beckwith-and-don-ratcliff/#comment-360 This sounds like it would have easily been my favorite session too. I’m continually contemplative of how little we can definitively know about what makes a strong relationship between an adult and God, and yet we claim to know everything about how a child’s relationship with God should be. I like the idea that it is, at it’s core — for both adults and kids, no disparity — about people loving God and loving others. That definition inspires a journey, and it doesn’t get trapped into what are ultimately cultural and man-made issues.

]]> By: JaredKennedy http://kidminandculture.wordpress.com/2009/04/10/my-conspire-2009-thoughts-general-session-2-with-drs-ivy-beckwith-and-don-ratcliff/#comment-359 Sat, 11 Apr 2009 13:05:11 +0000 http://www.elementalcm.com/2009/04/10/my-conspire-2009-thoughts-general-session-2-with-drs-ivy-beckwith-and-don-ratcliff/#comment-359 I think that Drs. Ratcliff and Beckwith have a lot in common with Scottie May and his chapter in Perspectives on Children's Spiritual Formation (B & H). At least he quotes them both a good bit. I have a lot of affinity for that chapter (and there is lots to learn from the whole book). I bet that I would have enjoyed this presentation.

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